English 1301 students:
For our blog on Friday, November 16th, please submit a comment during class time, 12:00-12:50 or 2:00-2:50 p.m. depending on your section, of at least two well-developed paragraphs. (One well-developed paragraph is 8-10 sentences, so your whole comment should be about 20 sentences.)
In your comment, please answer #2 in the "Vocabulary Projects" section on p. 683 about Barbara Ehrenreich's "The Shame Game" (pp. 680-684). In your comment, include some examples from your own experience, in addition to some of Ehrenreich's examples.
After you submit your comment, please submit a reply of one well-developed paragraph to at least one of the other students' comments. Please reply thoughtfully to the selected comment (rather than just stating that it is a good comment).
Reminders: Please read pp. 685-691 in our textbook before class on Monday, November 19th. And please bring your textbook to class with you that day. Also, please keep in mind that the first rough draft of Essay #5 is due on Wednesday, November 28th, when we will have the first of the two draft workshops for our last essay of the semester. Over the Thanksgiving break, be sure to work on your draft so that you have plenty of time to finish it.
Have a great weekend,
Dr. K
Shamers are the people who accuse one party of doing everything wrong leading to larger fall that is humanity. Shame is caused by giving someone a thought about who was at fault and having chose them self as the prime example of why it happened. People want to put blame on those who did nothing, to have those people work it out rather then themselves. That the accuser has no part in the devastation that is unemployment and homelessness. The veterans who cant go back to their old lifestyles to the drug addicts who dealt with pain by numbing it to the core. Those people are blamed for not working and are seen as the reason mankind is evolving ever so slowly. If everything revolved by communism, that would be more correct but we live in a country run by capitalism. Everyone is on their own with the chance to grow or degrade down to a number.
ReplyDeleteShame comes from the feeling of being a horrible person, that every problem stems from you. People feel as if they are nothing and deserve punishment for crimes they have not ever thought about committing. Shame is to hate on yourself as a person who could have made the right choice, even when thousand things are happening at once. Im sure most people like me who are living off of loans and their parents feel like they are a waste of money. Due to things like scholarships that give you money for barely having any or depend on your past in order for you to graduate. The shame i feel, like i waste my parents time with school makes me feel horrible and i wish to change that feeling somehow. But as a adult, i wont soak in my sins, i will go and make a change myself.
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DeleteI relate to your final sentence as well. The transition of becoming a freshman in college from a high school senior is a dramatic change. If not prepared, it can bring a whole boat load of dread. It can make you feel almost unworthy of the opportunity that you have. Especially when you give it your all but still turn out with a bad grade. Sometimes your just having a really bad week. As you said though, you shouldn't soak in your sins. Instead go out and make the difference that you need to make in your life.
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Shamers are people who take advantage of the bad situations that people are in and make them feel responsible for all the negative happenings that befall on them. These people are everywhere. From the people who blame others for being unemployed so long and being poor to the people at school who shame others for grades or sitting at the table at lunch all by themselves. In “The Shame Game”, Barbara Ehrenreich uses the example of a girl who was gang-raped in Pakistan, was sentenced to two hundred lashes. This way of thinking makes people feel they are at fault for something they have no influence overs.
ReplyDeleteShamees are the people who are on the receiving end of the shame. These people receive blame for things that are simply out of their power. I once worked with a lady who couldn’t afford a car due to her already having to pay for bills and provide for two kids at home. She was usually on time, but when she would arrive late to work, she would get scolded for it. The few times she showed up late eventually became the reason she would get fired as she was deemed “unreliable” . I disagree with this because she was always forced to find a ride to work all the way in Carlsbad, and she would definitely show up more than others, yet she got fired.
Shaming makes those who have no power feel powerful by feeding off the negative emotions from others. In truth, we all have our bad days, but we should pick each other up and support one another.
It is true that there are shamers every where. And they do use bad situations to make someone feels bad. The example you used about the girl from the essay is good. It shows that people no matter how bad of a situation someone can make a person feel at fault. I also disagree with the reason the woman being fired for being "unreliable" . She had to find a way to get to work and also have to take care of her family on top of that. I also think we should help each other through tough times.
DeleteI agree with your first sentence. Sharers are just looking to take advantage of people and make them feel bad so that they can feel better about themselves. Whether being unemployed is their fault or not it isn't right to make fun of someone because of it. You don't know their background and the situation they came from.
DeleteI believe that a shamer is a person that puts the shame on a person. Or someone else making someone feel shameful. An example Ehrenreich uses in her essay is that "there is an entire shame industry to whip them into shape: the career coaches, self-help books, motivational speakers, and business gurus who preach that whatever happens to you must be a result of your own "attitude"." One of my experiences with a shamer is from my dad. This happened when I was in second grade when I got a bad grade on a test. My dad gave me a lecture that I should take my time and go over my answers. He also told me if I keep this up I will not make it to far in the real world. After the talk with my dad, I was sad and ashamed of myself.
ReplyDeleteWhat I believe a shamee is a person that receives the shame or feels shameful. The example that Ehrenreich uses in her essay is that she can "remember talking to a young (white) woman who professed great enthusiasm for draconian forms of welfare reform-only to admit that she herself had been raised on welfare by a beloved and plucky single mother. That's deeply internalized shame." She uses this to show that there are many types of shame. I have a lot of experiences were I was a shamee. The biggest one O can think of is last year. I was studying for a test for almost a week and then I took the test. When I got the test back, even after all my studying I failed and I was ashamed of myself.
I definitely agree with your definitions of shamers and shamees. As they were the same as mine. I had a similar experience with rushing on test and my aunt always chews me out for it. Although I did feel more shameful, I learned my lesson and now always take my time.
DeleteIn the essay the author describes two words. She describes people as shamers and shamee’s. The shamer is one who looks down upon those who have been laid off and are unable to get employed. The shamee is the one on the receiving end of this blow. THe shamer will treat those who have been laid off as second class citizens and not respected them to any degree. She talks about people on a talk show radio who always talk about someone in the third person. The reason for this is that they are shameful that they are unemployed, and unable to provide for themselves and their families.
ReplyDeleteI’ve been in a similar situation to those who have been a part of the shamee’s. My dad was laid off back in 2008 when the economy crashed, and he wasn’t able to get a job anywhere. No matter where he looked there was always someone younger than him who had the same qualifications, who got the job. He tried his best not to show it but I could tell that he was ashamed that he wasn’t able to provide for us, even though it had nothing to do it. It was completely out of his control. I know what it is like to be a part of this and I don’t want anyone else to have to experience it.
I agree with your definitions of "shamer" and "shamee" you gave great examples for each one. I can also relate to you and your family we also had a rough time and still are having a rough time because what happened in 2008 and several other factors. I can also agree that it is a terrible feeling and I would not want anyone else to have to experience that as well.
DeleteI strongly agree with the sense of "shamer" and "shamee" that you got from the work. It is clear that you understand both very well through your examples. I understand how you can relate to the "shamee" side of things in your example from experience. I too had tough times growing up as far as family experiences and rough patches both. Through these times positivity and working together was key to making things worse. Adding shame to the situation is the worst thing that could occur. Shame would only multiply the burden and make things tougher for everyone. I too hope that nobody has to experience these types of things.
DeleteIn Barbara Ehrenreich’s she mentions “shamers,” and “shamees.” I would describe shamers as the one causing the shame on others and shamees are the people who feel the shame. For example, the shamer's can be described as, “coaches, self help books, motivational speakers, and business gurus who preach that whatever happens to you must be a result of your own attitude.” These people are the one who are causing the shame on people who may have been recently laid off. But an example of the what the shamees feel is that, “shame is a potent weapon, but it should never be used against the already injured and aggrieved.” For my own experience I have felt shame because of a mistake I made and owned up to. But then my peers around me made me feel even worse about the mistake I made. This was one of the hardest things I ever had to face.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your definition of the two words. And I like that you gave examples that I did not think of. I also like that you included your own personal experience.
DeleteShamers can technically be classified as bullies. These people use their opinions to strongly degrade someone else in order to make themselves feel they are better than the person in the wrong In Barbara Ehrenreich’s “The Shame Game”, she uses the example of a girl who was gang-raped in Pakistan, was sentenced to two hundred lashes. The Shamers made her feel degraded and useless and what she did was wrong. Shamees are the people receiving the shame brought onto them by the shamers.A lot of these people can be shamed for something they have absolutely no control over. Shaming makes those who have no power feel powerful by feeding off the negative emotions from others. In truth, we all have our bad days, but we should pick each other up and support one another.
ReplyDeleteIn my own experience, i have been shamed by many by standing up for my personal beliefs and causes. I have no control over who i am and i learned the hard way that no matter what peoples opinions are It doesn't matter one bit. I noticed that some had only “shamed me” because they feel threatened or they feel that my life choices affect their lives when it actually doesn't affect them in any way at all. Shame is something everyone gets put through eventually, weather we chose to or not, it's inevitable.
I agree that shamers are bullies. I also agree and like your definition of shamees. I agree that some people have their bad days and I think there should be no shame. I like how you used your own personal experience to finish the question. Overall, I liked your answer to #2 on vocabulary projects.
DeleteIn Barbara Ehrenreich's she uses two words "shamers" and "shamees". She describes "shamers" as anyone forcing or putting shame onto someone. They are the ones that give the shame in any situation like in her essay she uses the rich and the poor where if a peasant gets out of line a noble would shame them to show them the difference in their level.
ReplyDeleteShe uses the word "shamee" to describe the people on the opposite side of the spectrum. "shamee" refers to the people receiving the shame from the people around them. In reference to the previous statement of hers they would be the peasants being put in line. I feel that both of these descriptions are spot on and really easily show the difference between both while not being to simplified.
In paragraph 3, where Ehrenreich mentions “shamers” and “shamees”. These two words are obviously two different types of people on one side or the other of shame. I like that Ehrenreich says that shame is both a noun and a verb. I think “shamers” and “shamees” are both examples of shame as a noun. A “shamer”, in my opinion, is a person who casts shame on to others. I think these people are usually unhappy with their own lives and how they have turned out and they like to cast that on to other people in their everyday lives. Another type of “shamer” that I can think of is elderly people. I am not sure if it is because they are old and think they know better than younger people or if some elderly people are just rude. But, you can always count on an elderly person to tell you their opinion on how you look, act, or dress which can sometimes be negative and cause shame.
ReplyDeleteThe second type of shame used as a noun is a “shamees”. These are the people that the shame gets cast on. Usually for no reason. The “shamees”, for whatever reason they are being shamed is really none of the public’s business. I see a lot of “shamees” that have babies young out of wedlock or even couples that choose to get married young. It seems to me that “shamees” are usually part of the younger generation and the shame towards them is passed by older people who apparently think they can live their life better. If “shamers” would stop shaming then “shamees” would in turn disappear and everyone could live their lives their own way with no problems.
On your comment about shamers being unhappy about their own life I couldn't agree with you more because its easier to point the finger at other peoples mistakes to try and draw attention off their own. With feeling shame there usually is reasons behind it but even then it is no ones business or place to judge another for their actions.
DeleteIn this work by Barbara Ehrenreich, she speaks of and defines two words. The two words are both used to describe people and are “shamers” and “shamee”. I would describe shamers as people that make it harder for others by adding on to their faults or failures. Shamees on the other hand, are the ones on the receiving end of this situation. They are the ones who feel the shame that is being caused by the shamer. The shamer treats people who have been laid off as if they are not as good because of it. The person being laid off has enough on their shoulders and adding shame to their situation does nothing other than making them feel worse about it. In the work the author states that shame is powerful and shouldn’t be used against anyone that is already suffering from something else.
ReplyDeleteI can relate to the “shamee” side of the situation. Growing up I was raised mostly by my dad. For most of my teen years and throughout high school, my father’s disabilities had made him unable to work. Although he still did what he had to do for his family, I could see right through to the shame he had. It never bothered me that we didn’t have the best of everything because he did his best and raised us perfectly fine. This is a tough sense of shame to go through even just witnessing it. I hope that nobody else has to go through this and even more that nobody is shamed for it. This is a prime example of how powerful shame can be if there is a “shamer” in the mix to make things worse.
In "The Shame Game" Barbara Ehrenreich talks about "shamers" and "shamees" . The difference between the two would be that the shamee is the personal feeling ashamed while the shamer is the personmaking them feel that way about whatever the situation might be.
ReplyDeleteThere are many situations in the daily life that can cause anyone to feel ashamed or people constantly around making others feel that they should be ashamed.
i agree that there are many situations in the day to day life that can cause others to feel ashamed or vice versa.
DeleteI agree that daily situations can make anyone feel shameful about them self or others
DeleteIn Barbara Ehrenreich's article, she describes "Shamers" as those who try to put trouble or bad situations upon others. She also describes "Shamees" as the people who are the people who are receving shame but on a completely different side from the term "Shamers"
ReplyDeleteIn Barbara Ehrenreich's essay she talks about two types of people. She defines and talks about "shamers" and "shamee". She describes the shamers as the people who actually put shame on other people. The shamers are people who give other people a hard time to make themselves feel or look better. The author really emphasizes the fact the shaming is bad. I have seen a lot of shamers in my life and honestly I have probably been a shamer at some point in my life.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think I can relate more to the shamees. It happened a lot in my younger years because kids will say anything to make themselves look better. Even as a grew older though it was still a problem. In high school it was also a problem, but that's just how high school is. I would make most teenagers can be shamers because they're immature.
In my words, I think shamers are people who give other person or people statements or remarks that are more of a criticism. Shamers make other people feel like they are a terrible human being just because a mistake they made. In Barbara Eherenreich’s essay, she lets us read about the many ways people to be shamed. “Shame is a potent weapon, but it should never be used against the already injured and aggrieved.” She tells us that shame is very hurtful to people who are already in pain or grieving for what they already have done. I personally hate shamers for putting people down and feel worse about what they did. Would making the person feel worse, make yourself better? I don’t see any difference besides from making a person feel more guilt.
ReplyDeleteI think there are two ways you can define shamees. Shamees can be people who receive the rude or critical remarks from shamers. This is when someone makes one or many mistakes and might feel bad for what they done. With already feeling bad, they recieve the comments to making them feel worse about themselves. I think shamees can be the person who put themselves down in a situation. In Ehrenreich’s essay, she says “It’s easy enough for enlightened members of the comfortable classes to insist there’s no reason for shame.” I also personally think that there shouldn’t be any shame for people who didn’t do anything wrong in their part. I hope my definitions of shamers and shamees were clear enough to everyone.
I agree with what you’ve said and how you put it. Shame is such a stupid notion that there was even a play-on of it in a recent tv shows. This show follows stories of kids growing up and they introduce a character called the “shame wizard” and he constantly shows up and makes people feel bad about themselves. This goes to show just how prevalent shame is in our culture. The shamees should not be the ones having finger pointed at them, but instead it should be those who cast shame upon them. Being a person who shames other to make themselves feel better is deplorable and can not be tolerated.
DeleteI agree with your definition of shamers and shamees. It is very true that shamers tend to make others feel bad for their decisions. They also think it is okay and normal for what they are doing to other people. In addition, shamees have to deal with irrelevant and stupid comments made by shamers.
DeleteI agree with your interpretations on the subject. Many people are subjected to shame even if they do not know what they are going through. If they were able to see that, many would probably not be shaming them. That would make the world a better place.
DeleteIn “The Shame Game” Barbara Ehrenreich speaks on shamers and shamees. Shamers are people who bring the feeling of humiliation upon others. Shamees are those that are undergoing the feeling in result of the shamers. Ehrenreich uses the example Hester Prynne from the scarlet letter where she was publicly shamed in front of everyone and was forced to label herself with an A. Hester Prynne was the shamee due to the public shame from the other people involved in the story criticizing her for her actions and the situation she was involved in.
ReplyDeleteWe as humans undergo a variety of feelings and emotions. To say one can be heartless and not feel a thing is a lie within itself. Despite the person and the situation they are going through there lays a resulted feeling. A personal feeling of shame I have experienced is one summer i went to church camp for the first year in my youth group. Of course there was a pool there and we all couldn’t wait to jump in. Growing up I was always on the bigger side but I had never cared about it until some girl had to make a comment about me swimming in shorts and a t-shirt instead of a bathing suit like her. Immediately i brushed it off and acted like nothing but her comment had left a mark in me insecurity wise that till this day I struggle with.
Your personal example really stood out to me for a couple of reasons: First, this is such a common example (I know very few people who haven't been made to feel ashamed of their appearance at some point, especially women); and second, it is such a strange reason for people to make others feel ashamed! Generally, we feel shame for an action, right? We have done something we shouldn't have done, or we failed to do something that we needed to do, and so we feel shame. So why do we shame others or feel ashamed of our appearance when it is simply something that is, not something we have done? Why does it matter enough to shame other people, and what do we accomplish by doing so? That is not a real question, obviously, because there is no good reason, but it's something to think about.
DeleteShame should not be weaponized against the weak and injured as it is in our everyday life. There are constantly people who willberate you for something that is out of your control and make you feel shameful for it. Shamers are those who must make themselves feel superior by shoving someone else down, such as the Pakistani government when it comes to rape victims. Shamees are those who are forced into a shameful state by other opinions surrounding their situations, such as Hester Prynne in The Scarlet Letter. I have been on the side of shamer and shamee alike, and neither are necessary in this day and age. I have shamed girls for no reason other than they were well liked by other boys, which I strongly regret. On the flip side, I have been shamed into submission over something as simple as an interest in a country. The constant shaming that is ever present in our society needs to end, and we are the only ones who can control that. Especially over something as minute as someone being laid off for reason out of their control, no one deserves to feel less than.
ReplyDeleteThis essay is all too realistic and it is honestly a bit sickening. Especially in the case of Ehrenreich’s Pakistan example, of which innocent and brutalized girls are treated as garbage. This example doesn’t surprise me, but that makes it no less hard to read. The fact that women who have been raped are considered “unworthy and unclean” when none of it was their fault is ridiculous. I hate to say it, but it is not just Pakistan that behaves this way- America even acts accusatory to a somewhat less extreme extent. Women in America are hardly ever believed when it comes to rape cases, and even if by some miracle they are, the sentence is ridiculously small. We have rape culture abundant in our movies and tv shows, with even movies that are cult classics such as “sixteen candles”. The shame and shaming that prevails in our people is horrific and must be put to an end.
You have some really good examples, which, in a way, is actually quite disappointing--I wish it wasn't so easy to think of examples for this essay! I think it is particularly interesting that in your first paragraph you gave an example of how you have shamed for girls for nothing more than being well liked by boys (something that probably most of us have done at some point), and then in your second paragraph you talked about the American tendency not to believe women who claim to have been assaulted. I think there may be a connection between the two. There is such a tendency to shame women in all manner of things related to their interactions with men. I'm curious, why do you think it is so hard to break this tendency? Passing laws and winning court cases certainly helps, but why do you think our country is finding it so difficult to change our culture, or mindset?
DeleteShamers are people who judge others without knowing their background information. Shamees are the ones that are being judged and criticized by shamers. Shamers and Shamees can be compared to the saying “you can’t judge a book by its cover” because they start criticizing others by their appearance. It is easy for shamers to criticized someone other than themselves because they don’t know that particular person. What Barbara Ehrenreich said about “a relationship of domination in which the mocking judgements of the dominant are internalized by the dominated”(pg.681), can be considered an example of the words shamers and shamees. She meant that some people think it is ok for the person who wears the pants in the relationship (shamers) to make comments or judgements on their partner(shamees). Barbara also adds that “woman who spoke out against patriarchal restrictions could be dismissed as a harridan or even a slut”(pg. 681). Many women nowadays are used to the word slut because many people think it is appropriate to call them that because they are judging before knowing them.
ReplyDeleteI personally have not experience many situations where I have been shamed by shamers. However, when I was in High School I played sports and my school athletics started this thing called summers workouts. It was not mandatory to go but the coaches expected everyone to be there. I was not able to go to them because I worked in the summer during the hours of summers workouts. I was obviously not the only one who could didn’t make it to the workouts. It seemed I was being judged by some of the coaches and my teammates because I did not go to all the summer workouts. They made comments once the sport seasons came up saying that the people who didn’t show up didn’t deserve having playing time on the court. By those kind of comments it made me feel ashamed that I did not go, but also thought that it was not my fault since I had other responsibilities such as a job. Also, I tried to go whenever I could and indeed I did end up going to some of the summer workouts.
I think you are correct. A lot of people judge one another because they don't know the other person or their background. This is typically how shamers act towards people. And that is also why it might seem for shamers to wear the pants in the relationship or moreover seem superior.
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ReplyDeleteIn The Shame Game, the author Ehrenreich mentions “shamers” and “shamees”. To me, shamers is someone who causes shame, they go around shaming others for things with their head held high. Shamers are some of the cruelest people, they judge without knowing or trying to know the situations of someones life. I believe we are supposed to be kind and supportive of others no matter what it may look like. Shamees, on the other hand are the ones who are being casted shame on. This can be one of the worst pains or feelings to encounter. It feels as if you have let someone important down when at times it has nothing to do with your actions at all. Being the shamee is always the worst part because you feel bad because the shamer is shaming you into feeling down for whatever it is they believe you have done.
ReplyDeleteIn "The Shame Game" Barbara Ehrenreich talks about "shamers" and "shamees" . The difference between the two would be that the shamee is the personal feeling ashamed while the shamer is the person making them feel that way about whatever the situation might be.
ReplyDeleteThere are many situations in the daily life that can cause anyone to feel ashamed or people constantly around making others feel that they should be ashamed.
Ehrenreich mentions the words shamers and shamee as different types of shame. She believes that there is not just one type of shame. Each of them has their own different classifications attributed to them. Shamers put blame on any person besides themselves. They will bully someone to get their opinion across. One example that Ehrenreich uses to describe shamers is when the Saudi women who brings up charges of gang rape but instead gets shamed by the Saudis and sentenced to receive 200 lashes to shame her for getting raped. Shamees are the people who receive blame from shamers. An example of a shamee from Ehrenreich is the Saudi woman who gets gang raped.
ReplyDeleteThere have been examples in my life where there were shamers and a shamee. When I played high school golf, if I played poorly in a round, I would be shamed by my parents and teammates for letting them down. This made my parents and teammates the shamers and me the shamee. Another example of this is when my dad was laid off. He felt ashamed that he couldn’t provide for his family. He was ashamed that he needed financial help to just keep going. Just the thought of relying on someone for something such as that made him feel ashamed. He was a shamee.
Yes, there certainly is a lot of shaming that goes around where sports are involved. I'm not quite sure why but, disregarding bets, the formula tends to go something like, "I want my team to win so I can feel good. I'll make other people feel bad in order to achieve that". Flawed thinking at its finest, that. Morale is very much a determining factor in success and it is incredibly counterproductive to undermine it for your own team members. Sorry to hear your dad had to go through that. I understand the deep shame, almost fear of being forced to feel indebted to others. It isn't a very nice feeling. Loss of personal agency tends to sting.
DeleteTo me, a "shamer" is just someone that employs targeted shame in order to advance a particular agenda. This agenda can be any number of things. One example would be politics, where shame is a method to enact a zero-sum game of public opinion. If Candidate A makes Candidate B look like the devil incarnate then Candidate A looks that much more appealing (and voteworthy) by comparison. A "shamee" is just the unfortunate target of opportunity that enables a shamer to advance their agenda. An example of that would be a parent/parents who are made to feel ashamed when their child acts out in a public space. The shamer confronting them gets to feel morally superior, maintain their precious peace and quiet, remove any unsightly challenges to their idyllic daily lifestyle, and even show off how much of a better (possibly hypothetical) parent they are all in one fell swoop. Truly a wonderful package deal.
ReplyDeleteIn paragraph 6 on page 681 of the essay, an example is given of a Saudi woman who was raped and thus rendered ineligible for marriage. Obviously she would be the shamee, though it went a bit beyond that with the 200 lashes. The shamer in this case is the society she was born into. The cultural norm is that a daughter of the family has a particular form of honor contingent upon her chastity/purity. This is also the major determining factor in how she can be married off to increase the family's prestige. Male honor is contingent upon controlling the chastity and purity of female family members. Thus you can say the agenda there is to carefully control an asset that can be married off for overall gain- one part of the honor and shame culture.
I suppose a personal example would be one where I was the shamee many years ago as a young Airman. In short, my unit needed to send bodies to Afghanistan and the two primary candidates to fill the slots were both unserviceable- one due to medical issues and the other outright declined the orders. The Senior Master Sergeant (High enlisted rank, E-8; abbreviated SMSgt) briefing us explained that declining the orders meant you wouldn't be allowed to re-enlist or make promotion anymore. Your career would just die. Well, this SMSgt, the shamer, was full of it. Going on about killing careers, duty, and obligation didn't convince one of my peers to accept the orders since mysteriously he preferred not to go traipsing about an active warzone. I, on the other hand, was stupid enough to bite. Even though I was nearly out the door and had no desire to stay in, I accepted those orders and extended my enlistment contract to do it. It was shortly after that when my peer looked up some certain regulations which clearly stated that an Airman on their first enlistment can, indeed, decline orders without any adverse effects. I'm sure that was a great relief to him, seeing as how between the two of us he's the one still enlisted to this day. That SMSgt was pushing the unit's agenda of filling slots with bodies once the primary candidates were found unable/unwilling to go. Failure to fill all the slots would have created a deployment shortfall and made the unit look bad. Oh, the humanity.
I would have to agree with the terms use to describe shamers. They target people and inflict them unhealth amounts of shame to a person. My only problem with this essay is where the source for this is? The next thing I want to say is where is definition on the term shamee . For this term I would use examples from the author on how people pile more and more shame on themselves to become a shamee.
DeleteIn Ehrenreich’s book “The Shame Game”, she describes two different kinds of shame that people are afflicted with in there lifes. The first is where people purposely throw shame at another person. These people, defined by Ehrenreich , are called “shamers”. As stated before, these shamers are people who inflict shame upon other people. The way these people do this is stated by Ehrenreich, “ The ultimate trick is to make people ashamed of the injuries inflicted upon them.” What this means is that bad people hurt you more than the own injuries you inflicted to yourself. In my opinion, this is the worst kind shame that can fall on any person because it is harder to recovery from this when people keep pushing you down. This also hurts people were standing by and watching this happen. This point brings us to the other type of shame.
ReplyDeleteThe other type of shame that Ehrenreich state is the shame that you put on yourself. These people are called “shamees” and they let every little shameful pile up.The example that Ehrenreich gives is that more negative things that pile up the more they attract it to them. Ehrenreich states, “you must be too negative and hence attracting negative circumstances.” what this means is that the more people pile more and more negative emotions like shame than they will only bring more negatives to them. In my opinion this is easy to overcome but the hard part of this is where to start and how to deal with it.
In “The Shame Game” by Barbara Ehrenreich she brings up 2 point of shame. She says that shame is more of a noun than a verb. Also that it can be broken down into the “Shamers and shamees”. Shamers being the ones that put shame on other people, and shamees being the ones that receive the shame. Shamers are the ones at the top of society or for instance the popular kid in school. This kid tends to walk around like they rule the world. Due to the fact that they are in control and at the top of the social order. This kid tends to think and get everything he or she wants. They also are quick to put shame on people who don’t do things their way, or are also not normal in their eyes. This kid generally doesn’t care who they hurt or throw shame at. Mainly because at the end of the day they will always be at the top of the social food chain.
ReplyDeleteLike I said before shamess are the people who receive shame. These are most likely the kids who don’t fit in. Such as your book nerds or goth kids. You can say this kids are brave in some instances due to the fact that shame is always thrown on them, They won’t change to the norm around them just to stop being shamed. They stick with it and be their own kind of person because in life everyone is different. In other instances these kids get shamed so much that they do change, and they become a totally different person that they were before. Most of the times this change is for the worst and could end up putting the kid in a very bad position in life. On the slim chance that the change is good though the kid still loses their uniqueness. Mainly because they didn’t stay true to themselves.
In the “shame game “ the author Barbara Ehrenreivh talks about “ shamers “ and “ shames “ to describe the differences of the two. The “ shamer “ is shames someone and they bully the person to feel shameful about them self, which makes them feel humiliation. The shamees are the victims of the shamers who get bullied by people making them feel bad about a particular thing or problem they have. For example, she talks about a girl who was raped in Pakistan and “a woman who brings the charges of rape can be punished for adultery.” “ In 2007 a nineteen year old Saudi woman was sentenced to two hundred lashes for bringing charges of a gang rape.” This situation would make anyone going through it very shameful.
ReplyDeleteI have experienced this a lot while growing up with five brothers, epically being super completive with everything we would do. We did a lot of shaming and name calling growing up but we eventually grew out of it with age because it is really immature to make someone feel bad about themselves.